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#1 Charles Drago

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 07:26 AM

Forgive the Deep Politics 101 language; I wrote the following for a general audience and shared it on, among other sites, that of the Boston CBS affiliate:
 
"False flag operation" is a deep politics term-of-art used to describe an operation in which, for instance, Nation A launches a terrorist attack against itself or an ally with hallmarks and manufactured "evidence" implicating Nation B.  The objective is to create a casus belli sufficient to engender public support for retaliation.
 
Remember the Maine ... the Gulf of Tonkin ... 9-11.  For starters.
 
In the case of Deflate-gate, Nation A is the NFL, Nation B is the Patriots, and the objectives are to engender unprecedented international focus on the league and its premier event and to provide to the league an opportunity to demonstrate a new-found, post-Ray Rice/Adrian Peterson scandals commitment to transparency by eventually castigating its premier franchise.
 
(As I was taught by Bud Fensterwald [and he would have known; look him up], all intelligence operations have at least two objectives.)
 
So ... Will you think about this, or will you rush to embrace the "another crazy conspiracy theory" default position originated and perpetuated by, among other interested parties, those who create and benefit from false flag ops?

"[Y]ou can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity." -- Graham Greene, The Quiet American

"If an individual, through either his own volition or events over which he had no control, found himself taking up residence in a country undefined by flags or physical borders, he could be assured of one immediate and abiding consequence. He was on his own, and solitude and loneliness would probably be his companions unto the grave." -- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 09:42 AM

 

 
(As I was taught by Bud Fensterwald [and he would have known; look him up], all intelligence operations have at least two objectives.)
 

 

Among the likely objectives is also the continued distraction of the public mind through the perpetuation of cultural hegemony.



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Posted 24 January 2015 - 11:40 AM

Did the Patriots cheat? Did Brady and Belichick know it?

 

Indeed, when interviewed, Brady sounded more like Sgt. Schultz from Hogan's Heroes than a college educated professional athlete.

 

Perhaps the conspiracy is within the Patriots organization not within the NFL? Perhaps both.

 

This thread will be moved to the War Room as it should not have been started in the first place on a JFK Forum.

 

But since it was, here's some perspective:

 

http://fox5sandiego....OUlWpGwa_GsdIlo

 

As noted by my very favorite San Diego morning news team: Even a child says:"Get the pump!" when a ball is deflated this much.


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Posted 24 January 2015 - 12:22 PM

I beg to differ regarding the appropriateness of this thread here.

 

Our JFK/deep politics studies should inform our understanding of a plethora of socio-political phenomena.  And when we make such applications, the process often comes full circle when insights gained inform our JFK work.

 

Either way, however, is fine with me.


"[Y]ou can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity." -- Graham Greene, The Quiet American

"If an individual, through either his own volition or events over which he had no control, found himself taking up residence in a country undefined by flags or physical borders, he could be assured of one immediate and abiding consequence. He was on his own, and solitude and loneliness would probably be his companions unto the grave." -- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 12:45 PM

Noted.


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#6 Jim Hackett II

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 05:15 AM

"In the case of Deflate-gate, Nation A is the NFL, Nation B is the Patriots, and the objectives are to engender unprecedented international focus on the league and its premier event and to provide to the league an opportunity to demonstrate a new-found, post-Ray Rice/Adrian Peterson scandals commitment to transparency by eventually castigating its premier franchise."

 

To quote from the Bulworth script - "Big Money, Big Money, Big Money..."

 

Both houses are crooked, proven repeatedly. Pats busted again.

Get the pump!

 

Bill the "I didn't do it" chump "coach" and Brady both caught with exploded dye packs AGAIN. and Again.

Criminals stealing the fan's respect for the league and just for Big Money..

BUSTED AGAIN.

I bet given another pass by Goodell.

 

After this year I care not at all about the NFL nor its' big show.

None of the "media personalities" appearing on the TV did any more than as Greg said, Play the Sgt. Schultz role. "not me man, I didn't know and wouldn't..."

 

BS! History speaks guys, shut the hell up liars. I ain't got time for the BS.

 

Respect lost by corruption and loss of faith by fans.

 

NFL tax exempt? You gotta be shittin' me!

Free passes to play for murderers and punks!

And no one says much except for Goodell playing CYA.

 

And I gotta buy the house that Payton built as all the new stadiums are by their host communities.

Dallas has to buy Jerry's palace! Think about that.

 

Where is the integrity of the fired Bob Knight as example of standards enforced..

He grabbed Neal, Jeez I guess I should sue the USMC and all my own Drill Instructors too....

I am more inclined to buy the first round with those guys, today.

Replacing Knight hasn't gone too well for IU has it.

As Dan noted five years ago.

 

Integrity requires a certain amount of character.

I don't see any in the NFL. None.

Irsay busted for perscription drugs and never did time except one damn day waiting for court to open to set his bail.

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Corrupted the fun right out of the games.

 

Worse still is the DISTRACTION from real "news".

I hope I can go fly R/C while the "game is being enacted to script", weather permitting.

I do not think any better of Seattle or any NFL franchise, either both teams cheat like thieves always do.

It is not auto racing where the genius of stretching rules is part of the game within limits.

Jim



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Posted 25 January 2015 - 06:42 AM

Supporting My Deflate-Gate "False (Penalty) Flag" Hypothesis

 

During his Saturday (1-24) press conference, Patriots head coach Bill Belichick dropped this smart bomb:

"I think there are a number of things that need to be looked into on a number of levels, but that’s not for this conversation. I’m sure it will be taken up at another point in time."

 

The subtext could not be more intriguing or, for me, more clear: Someone is screwing with the Patriots -- perhaps along the lines of my previously presented hypothesis -- and the truth will out.

 

None -- repeat, NONE -- of the mainstream press has focused on this segment of Belichick's presentation. Not nationally. Not in Boston. 

 

Deep political analysis is the sine qua non for understanding this sort of operation. Period.


"[Y]ou can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity." -- Graham Greene, The Quiet American

"If an individual, through either his own volition or events over which he had no control, found himself taking up residence in a country undefined by flags or physical borders, he could be assured of one immediate and abiding consequence. He was on his own, and solitude and loneliness would probably be his companions unto the grave." -- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 08:32 AM

Agreed Charles,

More is going on than is getting coverage in the media at large.

 

While I like Matt Millen's comment about coming out of Penn State to the Raiders, Raider rule # 1 "Cheating is encouraged. Rule 2. See Rule # 1"

It is one thing to know Uppie (Gene Upshaw) and most Raiders were equipped with casts and the like on forearms when it was legal to go upside the head of the defense with same.

Deacon Jones was famous for that move.

All that was a different era.

 

No bounty-gate as trying to hurt your opponent intentionally would bring the enforcers onto the field to enforce the "don't you dare" issue.

Stickum and Da Judge Lester Hayes the best defensive back in history.

Digest that one Seahawks back. Yes you Richard are only dreaming of greatness.

 

It was a game once upon a time and one I enjoyed large.

 

The NFL refusing to even consider concussion effects told me much about the NFL. Obfuscation is just that.

To know a center like Mike Webster would be left to living under a bridge at times just gripes my butt.

HOF but discarded as damaged goods by the Steelers and the NFL hurts me for him and his family.

Consume and discard the players, some franchises do just that in shame.

 

Then Spy-gate,

then the inexcusable bounty-gate fiasco of the 'Aints.

 

Now more cheating exposed by the Ravens and Colts, clearly the trend continues league wide.

 

The NFL messed up a great thing.

Cheating to win is not winning it is cheating.

Rings in the cheat era mean NOTHING.

 

Like child labor, I cannot support the concept and I do not buy the "ready-to-fly" R/C models build by kids in Asia.

I can design and build my own and they fly better by far,

costing more in time but less in dollars.

 

As much as WeThePeople have been cheated in seeking Justice for a myriad of issues of real importance,

I can't enjoy the NFL any more. Corruption was their choice and rejection is my choice reply.

Sure I watched a few playoff games but not as much as I once did.

 

I say the Pats ownership and coach have earned a ban from the game at the least for a year or two.

Brady too as a liar so bold, the Sgt. Schultz act does not fool me nor many HOF quarterbacks.

 

Tis not the first time they are busted.

My rejection is league wide including the Colts my home team.

 

 

I am watching the 24 hours of Daytona a much more enjoyable event to view for me.

It makes me wish I were driving a racer again.



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Posted 25 January 2015 - 09:26 AM

I'm just thrilled that you and I have reached the point where we can discuss football without being armed.


"[Y]ou can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity." -- Graham Greene, The Quiet American

"If an individual, through either his own volition or events over which he had no control, found himself taking up residence in a country undefined by flags or physical borders, he could be assured of one immediate and abiding consequence. He was on his own, and solitude and loneliness would probably be his companions unto the grave." -- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 12:11 PM

Here's the thing:

 

A referee actually delayed the start of a play during the game to check the ball and determined it was under-inflated (deflated). He detected this under-inflation presumably by "feel" alone and then replaced it. Whether or not he was given a heads up (to check the ball) is irrelevant--at least for my purposes, but could become relevant for other reasons later. However, that the referee's own sense of "feel" caused him to delay play in order to replace the ball speaks volumes. That the amount of deflation was not insignificant (the Pats' game balls were at 11 psi rather than 13 psi) and that 11 out of 12 Patriots' game balls were "deflated" by that precise amount (2 psi) also speaks volumes. That one Patriot football remained properly inflated remains suspect, as it was presumably for the benefit of one or both of their kickers who would be at a disadvantage if forced to kick an under-inflated football. The firmer the football the farther and "more on target" it carries due to both the impact to its surface and its more aerodynamic symmetry while airborne. So it appears they even had THAT base covered. 

 

Tom Brady KNOWS how a properly inflated football should feel in his hands as do the Patriots' running backs know how a properly inflated football should feel as they carry it.

 

So the question is not "Did the Patriots cheat?"-- Nor is it: "Did they know they were cheating?" We know those answers already.

 

The questions are:

 

1) How far up does this (specific game) conspiracy rise within the NFL?

 

2) Has conspiracy to manipulate the playoffs become "business as usual" within the culture of the NFL irrespective of which team franchise happens to be on top for an extended period of time?

 

3) Would there be monetary gain generated by such a culture?

 

4) Cui bono?

 

[PS: I'm armed (with a delete button) just in case a "peace keeper" is required]


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 06:40 PM

?...... The firmer the football the farther and "more on target" it carries due to both the impact to its surface and its more aerodynamic symmetry while airborne. So it appears they even had THAT base covered. 
 


I believe Mythbusters tested the "helium filled football travelling further" myth but I'm not sure if they've tested the "firmness providing better accuracy and longer range" myth. Personally, I doubt the 2psi differential between 11 and 13psi would have any discernible impact.

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 12:08 AM

The "hidden empire" of "fantasy football" and gambling "legal and not".....

 

Too damn much big money for the game to remain unsullied IF it ever was!

 

My choice is never to gamble period, came from working a couple of months in a Tahoe casino.

Beautiful scenery but the psyop of the legal theft industry revolts me to this day.

 

On the job in "friendly" one buck each pool all the guys would let me pick the driver in the 500, the Indy 500 not the NASCAR imitation of real racing.

I guessed correctly too often so they switched to a random choice system and I still got the winners. All of 32 dollars gained.

Just as well as soon I wouldn't bet a penny on anything.

 

I will observe this about under-inflated footballs,

 

THEY ARE MUCH EASIER TO KEEP GRASPED AND CONTROLLED FOR A RUNNING BACK THAN THE SPECIFIED BY RULE LEVEL OF INFLATION!

 

In that the "running game" was central to the PATS attack in both the playoff games Ravens and Colts

I know the LIARS cheated as circumstances and reply to queries of late make the truth undeniable.

 

If any team is so good why do you repeatly get caught cheating? Over and over and over again, the winners cheat,

N.O. 'Aints, the Pats prove my point again.



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Posted 26 January 2015 - 10:20 AM

I believe Mythbusters tested the "helium filled football travelling further" myth but I'm not sure if they've tested the "firmness providing better accuracy and longer range" myth. Personally, I doubt the 2psi differential between 11 and 13psi would have any discernible impact.

 

Perhaps I stand corrected, but for a different reason than what you stated. This morning I heard a sportscaster say that the "kicking balls" (lol no pun intended!) are locked in a special container, which is controlled by the officials, prior to each game to prevent any type of tampering. If advantages gained from kicking ball manipulations are all "myths" I wonder why the NFL adopted the practice of isolating those balls?

 

Moreover, the league should have adopted the same policy with the "quarterback's footballs" as they did with the "kicker's footballs" since they knew that such shenanigans were not only possible, but likely to occur if not prevented. By employing a double-standard they sent mixed messages and perhaps engaged in entrapment.


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Posted 26 January 2015 - 10:49 AM

I should also add that I admire Tom Brady for being a true ambassador for the sport as well as a tremendous leader of his team. I admire his ability to inspire youth to pursue their dreams of becoming a pro some day. I cannot say with certainty what actually went on in terms of who bears the highest level of responsibility for the perfidy or who should lose the luxury of garnering the "benefit of the doubt."

 

There are, no doubt, a lot of moving parts to this story. Charles may well be correct, IMO, that the Patriots are being unfairly and deliberately targeted for having exploited an elusive loop hole in the league's policies regarding the game balls and that the league is itself complicit on some level for the debacle. There may also be even deeper elements at work here for reasons yet unclear. However, I also believe that an elite athlete, such as Tom Brady--who is a hero looming larger than life in the eyes of very young football hopefuls from grammar school through high school--needs to rise above even the appearance of impropriety for the sake of the kids. Even if there was no other reason to do so that alone should be enough, IMO. Yeah, I know, my expectations of human behavior are unrealistically high. But, when sportsmanship is removed from sports all that remains is testosterone driven "man's-manship" lacking integrity.

 

In this instance, I know not if Brady innocuously dismissed the "feel of the ball" as good fortune since his mind was focused on the plays and on the immediacy of the task at hand. I suppose it is possible. However, it is not very credible for him to make such a claim as it appears to defy common sense.


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Posted 26 January 2015 - 12:03 PM

The Pats are taking the shot yes.

The league is glad to allow themselves to hide behind the Pats franchise.

 

I wonder if this is the equal of the 1919 Black Sox Scandal that almost destroyed baseball until Ruth came along in the heels of that gambling based corruption?

I doubt that to be the case, I am cynical about American cultural values of this time.

No Kennesaw M. Landis to create the illusion of respectability for the NFL.

 

Say it ain't so Joe, just say it ain't so.

 

I didn't believe them and their Maxima Mea Culpa,

Sorry Bill and Tom I know you to be of suspect veracity in the past.

 

Charlie I still beg pardon.

It is nothing even to the hilljack and

DAMN DID THE BRONKS STINK UP THE JOINT LAST YEAR.

I hope the Pats kick some butt

FWIW.

I don't like the arrogance of either team involved this year.

 

I endorse the values of Tony Dungee, clean like Ceasar's wife beyond doubt honest, playing hard but clean inside the rules as far as I know.

Peel the ego of the folks from rainland, deflate their arrogance not the footballs.

the hawks are not the Steelers of the 70s no matter what they want you to think.



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Posted 26 January 2015 - 06:00 PM

?.. when sportsmanship is removed from sports all that remains is testosterone driven "man's-manship" lacking integrity.
 


Quoted for impact.
100% agree.
We should encourage children to learn that in sport, as with almost everything in life, the journey is just as important as the end result.

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 06:09 PM

Perhaps I stand corrected, but for a different reason than what you stated. This morning I heard a sportscaster say that the "kicking balls" (lol no pun intended!) are locked in a special container, which is controlled by the officials, prior to each game to prevent any type of tampering. If advantages gained from kicking ball manipulations are all "myths" I wonder why the NFL adopted the practice of isolating those balls?
 
Moreover, the league should have adopted the same policy with the "quarterback's footballs" as they did with the "kicker's footballs" since they knew that such shenanigans were not only possible, but likely to occur if not prevented. By employing a double-standard they sent mixed messages and perhaps engaged in entrapment.


I expect the league would have adopted those practices to put to rest any future suggestions of ball tampering for the kicking balls. (lol indeed)

It's an oversight that the same policy isn't in effect for all balls used in pro-sports.

With the money and careers hinging on pro sports results (regrettably I might add), it would seem obvious to the layman that the removal of all such opportunities for cheating (perceived or actual) would be front and centre.

I guess that's the thing about giving a shit about things out of your control (such as sports results)....it can drive you crazy!!

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Posted 27 January 2015 - 09:09 AM

NEWS ALERT:

 

NFL "video" reveals the balls may have been deflated by a "lone wolf" ball boy!  aka: a patsy (no pun intended)

 

[and Charles' suspicions gain traction...]


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Link please.

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Posted 27 January 2015 - 04:49 PM

An operation is blamed on a low-level cutout.

 

And we are shocked.

 

Here is the perp:

 

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