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#21 Phil Dragoo

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 02:17 PM

In Zapruder time Z-313 is 3.2 seconds after Altgens 6 (Z-255) which displays a president in distress and a windshield defect I describe as "Nebula".

 

Behold there stands Hill like a stone wall.

 

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 02:57 PM

I appreciate your response and discussion, and as I stated, CH's interview response appears "restrained". But, I cannot in good conscience criticize his actions as the assassination occurred on 11/22/63. I fail to see the 4-5 seconds late in reacting based on the Altgens6 photo, nor do I know how fast the motorcade was moving at the time of said photo. As it was, CH barely reached the rear of the JFK limousine after it slowed and/or stopped, before it resumed speed/took off. However, if film alteration changes the timing, that's another story. But, like I stated, I know of no eyewitness testimony that that varies his response timing. Although again, the interview responses are troubling. And, as I stated, JMO, FWIW.

 

Hill's responses were "restrained," or perhaps "strained" - agreed.

 

Neither do I "criticize his actions;" rather I criticize his inaction.  He had ONE job - ONE... As did the other USSS Agents.  They were all negligent, derelict, or complicit.

 

I don't wish to play the "parlor game," nor will I.  However, with regards to timing, Altgens 6 depicts JFK with at least two wounds (back and throat) and Connally with at least one (back through chest).  Connally's wounds occurred after JFK had been struck at least twice.  The shooting had been taking place for two seconds or more at this point, and as Phil so eloquently puts it, "Zapruder time" places the fatal shot(s) three seconds later.  At least two seconds after at least three shots, Hill is standing on the running board with a front row seat to the crime of the century - frozen...staring.  Maybe he is so hungover from being out drinking heavily until just a few hours before the motorcade that he couldn't move.  Maybe he couldn't believe his eyes.  Maybe he could be honest and tell us.  But from the time the shooting began until he dismounts the follow-up vehicle, a minimum of 4-5 seconds elapses.  Inexcusable for a highly-trained individual who only had ONE job.



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Posted 18 March 2015 - 08:58 PM

I too will not engage in the parlor game of endless speculation about the "timing" of Mr. Clint Hill's actions as the rounds were impacting people, a President and Governor as a matter of fact.

 

My primary issue are the deeds Mr. Hill has undertaken some long after the fact to promote public doubt and in effect endorse by silence and abstention the LHO dunnit fable.

 

As a fact I will point out one issue from the Altgens' photo above in Phil's post.

 

The fourth car in line first behind the car bearing soon to be President Johnson, a Mercury SS car. It has the rear door opened and an attentive USSS agent, more attentive than Mr. Hill is about to dismount the vehicle that far back in the parade. Where the USSS agents closest to the Presidential Party did EXACTLY NOT A DAMN EFFECTIVE THING TO PROTECT THEIR CHARGES.

 

Meanwhile as Phil pointed out, Mr. Hill stands stock still frozen in place. Possibly because of USSS agent in charge Emory Roberts' order for the agents with him riding the Queen Mary USSS Cadillac "follow up car", to stay put, i.e. stay onboard the escort car. A direct order to stand down issued to the Protection Detail personnel, the closest agents to the President as I MUST discount William Greer and Kellerman.

 

In common with the "reaction" of USSS asset Roberts, USSS assets Greer and Kellerman were already "stood down" long before boarding SS-100X, the fix was in. The only action left to be taken care of was the COVER UP.

 

A task only the USSS was as perfectly positioned to accomplish as easily with the cooperation of the "media".

Only the USSS had the tactical power to oversee the theft of the President's body, escort it to Bethesda AND sign off by untruths on the LHO bullshit Fable.

 

51 years of the like untruth is more than enough of the bullshit endorsed by the USSS.

 

Sorry but I am not that stupid and I do read the evidence, just to piss off the ghost of AW Dulles again.

 

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 03:12 AM

Emory Roberts' cool appraisal of Kennedy at Parkland and his, "I'm going with Johnson" or "I'm taking my team with Johnson" shows ability to rapidly appraise and act--

 

--which is conspicuously missing in the Altgens amber of "Do not move" paralysis--

 

--unless, of course, he was acting tactically--just not according to his duty, hence as a traitor, an accomplice.

 

The Blaine game and the Long Night of the Hill Mea Culpa cannot, as we saw in Macbeth, wash the blood

 

The rap sheet on this crew is not as easily expunged as the limousine seat

 

There is a letter in the Dallas JFK Archive to Curry regarding a car in Dealey near "the exact spot where the president was shot"

 

which (the week prior) took a bullet through the left rear window (and the trajectory might match that casing/sabot found on a roof there)

 

Someone knew in advance, or several someones, and they were in the pilot car and the limousine and the follow-up car

 

What security was not already stripped was paralyzed

 

Greer can be seen looking back in the extant Z-286/Z-318 when he puts pedal to the metal and blurs the occupants

 

Stares a second and a half ZST after a second and a half after the nonfatal wound volley

 

He is not some talent show novice with stage fright; his delay is more sinister

 

He is watching and waiting for the head shot

 

Mark notes the Hill inertia during the pre-fatal woundings

 

Jim perfectly describes the SS men as bodysnatchers

 

The autopsy in the Hornberger treatise is a masterful military manipulation

 

Johnson is handed the keys to the kingdom

 

only to find himself on the apex of the pyramid with the priests ready to offer his heart

 

He realizes this midway between his ascension and his heart attack

 

And the eye on the pyramid shed not a tear

 

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 11:48 AM

My recent posting on this topic deals only with the actions of SSA Clint Hill, on 11/22/63 as the assassination occurred, whose primary assignment that day was to provide security and SS protection for the First Lady, Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy. Again, I do not know how fast the motorcade was moving at the time of the Altgens photo, so I do not know how fast SSA Hill would need to run to catch the moving JFK Lincoln limousine. I also do not know when JFK received a back wound, or exactly when SSA Hill left the SS Cadillac running board to attempt to reach the JFK limousine and/or Mrs Kennedy. It is apparent that JFK is reacting to a wound in the Altgens photo, which I believe to be a frontal throat wound that came through the windshield. But, I am not convinced, at this time, that Governor John B Connally has been wounded at the time of the Altgens photo. It does appear to me that the slowing and/or stopping of the motorcade allowed SSA Hill to reach the rear bumper of the Lincoln. I do anticipate keeping an open mind for further evaluation, and absolutely appreciate the additional opinions, thoughts, and knowledge posted by others. However, at this point I stand by my thoughts as expressed, and do not intend to post again on said topic unless a further evaluation changes my opinion.


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#26 Phil Dragoo

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 03:12 AM

Larry, you make a keen observation:

 

I am not convinced, at this time, that Governor John B Connally has been wounded at the time of the Altgens photo.

 

Ron Hepler has done an interesting analysis concluding Connally was struck in the back at 326 ZST and in the wrist at 338 ZST.

 

Hepler observes:

 

While the Secret Service agents appear thoroughly confused, Nellie has analyzed the threat and is galvanized into action to pull her husband from the line of fire and down into her lap.

 

http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/18th_Issue/connally.html

 

This "flurry of shots" included two just over a second apart striking the governor--after the head shot.

 

I concur with your throat shot conclusion--the Secret Service went to great lengths to massage the windshield evidence--Dudman was at Parkland and saw a hole, while the evidence shows merely cracking--Weldon-Whitaker casts light there.

 

Indeed we may all agree the "Secret Service agents appear throughly confused"--

 

--except for Emory Roberts who paralyzed the follow-up car response--while failing to restrain Clint Hill.

 

Then there's the very efficient robbery of the best evidence for a sham-wow autopsy

 

and the badgering by Elmer Moore of Malcolm Perry for the throat shot entry description--

 

so dangerous it brought Arlen Specter and Allen Dulles into the ring to beat the surgeon over the head with folding chairs

 

And of course the Secret Service destroyed records for 1963 rather turn them over to the National Archives

 

After participating in assassination a mere clerical crime is as natural as breathing

 

for which there was no public uproar as there might have been over erased tapes or deleted emails

 

The Secret Service:  still boozing and covering up after all these years--a Northern Star in turbulent times



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Posted 20 March 2015 - 11:37 AM

REGARDING THE WOUNDING OF GOVERNOR JOHN B CONNALLY

 

Thanks Phil. I don't recall reading Ron Hepler's analysis before now. Very interesting!


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Posted 20 March 2015 - 02:09 PM

Larry, when I called Andy for a Harvey & Lee he said no-got but had Ray Marcus--author of The Bastard Bullet.

 

When we dolly back from the dressmaker we see that flurry of shots in Panavision.

 

Without doubt in the depths of the intelligence labyrinth exists the camera original seen by Brugioni.

 

The Fiester-DeFiore-Weldon trajectory, plus the through-the-left-rear-window-the-week-prior, two shots for the governor, a Horne-Mantik triple-header--

 

--before long we have more bullets than the "believing Marxist" could emit from the lunchroom, guiding them on his vintage Game Boy.

 

Factor in the Collins-type jammer, the Walkie Talkie Man, the Morse code victory message one might almost conclude conspiracy.

 

We are to be preoccupied with a basketball lottery now in progress rather than all the bullets that lighted martyrs to dusty death.

 

Orwell and Huxley fighting in the captain's tower.

 

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Posted 12 July 2015 - 05:03 AM

There is much to gain from analyzing footage taken in Dealey Plaza that day, either it be films or photographs. AP press photographer James Altgens took one of the most famous photographs called “Altgens 6”. In this photo we can see that Kennedy is reacting to something, presumably a shot or two. We can also see Clint Hill standing on the right side of the Secret Service car, Queen Mary. But what is Hill looking at?

This is what Clint Hill told the Warren Commission: “I heard a noise from my right rear, which seemed to be a firecracker. I immediately looked to my right and, in so doing, my eyes had to cross the Presidential limousine and I saw President Kennedy grab at himself and lurch forward and to the left.”

Representative Hale Boggs: “This was the first shot?”

Clint Hill: “This is the first shot I heard; yes, sir. I jumped from the car, realizing that something was wrong, ran to the Presidential limousine. Just about as I reached it, there was another sound…”

While Clint Hill attempted to explain his actions with a nebulous and very short time span in the form of shot‐danger‐run‐sequence, it is easy to see why this is wrong and perhaps a case of a created false reality not holding together. Some researchers have said that Clint Hill tells the truth while the Zapruder film is not. We say that is right and wrong; actually both Hill and the film are lying. Here is why we believe that:

 

Mr. SPECTER: “Now, what is your best estimate on the time‐span between the first firecracker‐type noise you heard and the second shot which you have described?”

Mr. HILL: “Approximately 5 seconds.”

Mr. SPECTER: “Now, did the impact on the President's head occur simultaneously, before, or after the second noise, which you have described?”

Mr. HILL: “Almost simultaneously.”

Representative FORD: “Did you see the President put his hands to his throat and chest while you were still on the follow‐up car, or after you had left it?”

Mr. HILL: “As I was leaving. And that is one of the reasons I jumped, because I saw him grab himself and pitch forward and to the left. I knew something was wrong.”

Representative FORD: “It was 5 seconds from the firecracker noise that you think you got to the automobile?”

Mr. HILL: “Until I reached the handhold, had placed my foot on the left rear step.”

Mr. SPECTER: “How far back of the President's automobile was the Presidential follow-up car when the President's follow‐up car had just straightened out on Elm Street?”

Mr. HILL: “Approximately 5 feet.”

As you can see, in these two statements Clint Hill says that after hearing the first noise he looked back attempting to locate where it came from. In doing so he saw Kennedy grab something at his throat. This would mean that some time elapsed between the “noise” (shot or bomb) and the actual time when he leaped off the Queen Mary ‐ and not as he says: “as I was leaving”.

Next Hill claimed it took him five seconds to run from the Secret Service car to Kennedy’s car. And a little later in his testimony he says the distance between the two cars were only five feet. Illuminating this scenario with some kind of logic it would mean that Clint Hill started his run approximately one second after the first shot, only to reach the President’s limo some five (actually 6) seconds later, “almost simultaneously” as the fatal head shot occurred. Now, if the Secret Service car was trailing Kennedy’s car by only five feet, as Hill told the Commission, then it would mean that it took him between five and six seconds to run five feet.

Hill’s claim of at what moment he arrived to the limo is neither correct. If you watch the

Zapruder film you can see that Hill arrives 1,6 seconds after the fatal headshot. In Marie

Muchmore’s film we can actually see the entire run, which takes approximately 0,5 seconds.

This could mean that Clint Hill didn’t start running until he had seen that Kennedy was deadly wounded, right after the “third shot”, or the headshot (which in reality could have been the 9th, 10th or 11th shot).

According to the Warren Commissions version and the Zapruder film, the shooting went on for six seconds while the Presidential limousine was going at an alleged speed of 12‐15 miles per hour. The Zapruder film actually shows that the average speed of the limo down on Elm

Street was five miles per hour, which if it was true was insanely slow. The Muchmore film also suggests that Clint Hill arrived to a limo that stood still, simply because when he jumped up on to the car, the force of his own speed made his upper body continue forward (look at the film and you will see this).

If we then listen to the Secret Service driver Bill Greer, who told the Commission that he floored the gas pedal right after the second shot or close to the third shot. That also has to be a wrongful statement if the (3) films are supposed to be believed. Based on what can be seen in the Zapruder film as well as in the Nix and Muchmore films, neither Clint Hill nor Bill Greer were telling the truth.

Another question is why did Clint Hill at all run to the limo? Did he run with the intention of protecting the President or to protect the First Lady? If the limo stood still, then Clint Hill’s time of reaction becomes even more questionable, perhaps beyond what can be acceptable. As it seems, Hill didn’t start to run until after the so‐called third shot, when the shooting had stopped and the President was dead. And let’s not kid ourselves ‐ it was not like the Secret Service agents behind in the Queen Mary were unsure of the outcome after the fatal headshot, since a large part in the back of Kennedy’s head blasted out with skull pieces, brain matter and blood that sprayed all over the motorcycle cops and landed everywhere. It is not likely they didn’t take notice of that when it happened right in front of them.

To sum it up: Hill told the Warren Commission that he ran right after the first shot and it took him five seconds to reach the limo. The Zapruder film shows he didn’t reach the car until one second after the third shot, which indicates his run took him six seconds. What Clint Hill really says is that he jogged on the spot for six seconds. Secondly, Bill Greer couldn’t have floored the gas pedal after the second shot or before the third, since Hill didn’t get on to the car until one second after the third shot. Instead it looks like Bill Greer waited for Clint

Hill to get on to the car before he floored the pedal. Clint Hill is simply a liar, just as the three films…



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Posted 12 July 2015 - 06:03 AM

Agreed.

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Posted 12 July 2015 - 11:03 AM

Agreed.

 

Darren,

 

What I write next is not a criticism of Staffan's post. I am, however, inquiring as to exactly what it is that you "agree" with in it.

 

Do you agree with all of it ... or just the part where Staffan places Clint Hill on the wrong side of the Queen Mary? [Hill is standing on the Queen Mary's left running board]. Or does it include the parts where Staffan utilizes various films as "stop watches, timers, and/or tape measures" even though he is suggesting that, having been altered, they are--by definition--inadequate to such a task?

 

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Staffan,

 

As a point of logic, just because two assertions are mutually exclusive does not mean that if one is proved to be false the other is therefore true. Neither assertion may be true. Or, to put it another way, both assertions may be false.
 
So Bill Greer's testimony contradicts Clint Hill's testimony. Bill Greer's testimony is not consistent with the Zapruder film. The Zapruder film contradicts Clint Hill's testimony. The Zapruder film contradicts itself and therefore is self-impeaching.
 
What we have here is an evidentiary cess pool. In my opinion, there is little to be learned from most of it.
 
Please don't misunderstand my meaning. I spent many, many years micro-analyzing the details certain that eventually I'd discover something of value that no one had ever seen before. What I discovered instead was a pile of tainted, mostly inadmissible, contradictory, self-impeaching, red herrings.

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Posted 12 July 2015 - 01:16 PM

Greg,

"What we have here is an evidentiary cess pool. In my opinion," - I thought that that is what I tried to show. (My bad when it comes to Hill´s position; I looked at the A6 and made a sloppy error.)

"there is little to be learned from most of it."

Never under estimate "little".



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Posted 12 July 2015 - 02:55 PM

 Since I have already expressed an opinion regarding SSA Clint Hill's reaction to gunfire in Dealey Plaza on 11/22/1963, I will not repeat that opinion. But, I do have to ask, exactly where is Clint Hill's statement saying it took him 5 seconds to run from the SS Cadillac running board to the JFK Lincoln rear bumper?   :huh: 


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Darren,
 
What I write next is not a criticism of Staffan's post. I am, however, inquiring as to exactly what it is that you "agree" with in it.
 
Do you agree with all of it ... or just the part where Staffan places Clint Hill on the wrong side of the Queen Mary? [Hill is standing on the Queen Mary's left running board]. Or does it include the parts where Staffan utilizes various films as "stop watches, timers, and/or tape measures" even though he is suggesting that, having been altered, they are--by definition--inadequate to such a task?
 
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As a point of logic, just because two assertions are mutually exclusive does not mean that if one is proved to be false the other is therefore true. Neither assertion may be true. Or, to put it another way, both assertions may be false.
 
So Bill Greer's testimony contradicts Clint Hill's testimony. Bill Greer's testimony is not consistent with the Zapruder film. The Zapruder film contradicts Clint Hill's testimony. The Zapruder film contradicts itself and therefore is self-impeaching.
 
What we have here is an evidentiary cess pool. In my opinion, there is little to be learned from most of it.
 
Please don't misunderstand my meaning. I spent many, many years micro-analyzing the details certain that eventually I'd discover something of value that no one had ever seen before. What I discovered instead was a pile of tainted, mostly inadmissible, contradictory, self-impeaching, red herrings.


Hi Greg,

I apologise for my laziness. I should have been far more specific as I consider it important.

Staffan's final statement was where I was directing my concurrence...."Clint Hill is simply a liar, just as the three films…"

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 08:44 AM

Greg,

"What we have here is an evidentiary cess pool. In my opinion," - I thought that that is what I tried to show. (My bad when it comes to Hill´s position; I looked at the A6 and made a sloppy error.)

"there is little to be learned from most of it."

Never under estimate "little".

 

 

Thanks for the clarification, Staffan.


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 08:45 AM

Hi Greg,

I apologise for my laziness. I should have been far more specific as I consider it important.

Staffan's final statement was where I was directing my concurrence...."Clint Hill is simply a liar, just as the three films…"

 

Agreed.

 

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 02:27 PM

Larry, read it again - I cannot arrive at any other conclusion than Hill says it took him 5 seconds to run from the Queen Mary to the limo. But if you can show me otherwise, please do.



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Posted 13 July 2015 - 03:45 PM

Larry, read it again - I cannot arrive at any other conclusion than Hill says it took him 5 seconds to run from the Queen Mary to the limo. But if you can show me otherwise, please do.

Staffan, I appreciate your response, but not seeing Clint Hills's quote saying his run time was 5 seconds, I cannot understand where that timing comes from. I am confident that he was not watching a stop watch during the shooting, so I would think his reference of "approximately 5 seconds" between the 2 shots he heard is as accurate as he can be, and as posted, he was apparently responding to JFK's reaction of reaching for his throat and and going forward and to his left after the 1st shot he heard. And, it seems to me that he said that he heard a 2nd shot, which struck JFK in the head, as he was reaching the rear bumper step and handle of the JFK Lincoln. So, my understanding is that his "run time" is somewhat less than the "approximately 5 seconds" answer to Mr Spector's question regarding the time between the 1st firecracker type noise he heard and the 2nd shot he described. I try to bear in mind that between the motorcycles, automobiles, and crowd noises, the sounds may not have been automatically recognized. I have not stood in Clint Hill's shoes, but for him to leave the running board of the SSA Cadillac and run to the JFK Lincoln as it was receiving gunfire has to say something about him.


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Posted 14 July 2015 - 02:25 AM

As I went through the Costella Combined Edit looking for the gallant Hill

 

I found at Extruder 350 a marvelous pallette

 

submitted here for your consideration:

 

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As with Frankenstein stitches attaching Backyard Lee's Chin

 

there is nothing to see here, gentle readers

 

nothing but the modern art of revision

 

brushstrokes of the masters

 

signing their masterpiece

 

at Hawkeyeworks

 

Sunday night

 

November

 

24

 

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