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#1 Mark Jamieson

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 12:03 PM

Has anyone else been able to stomach watching this?

 

http://www.history.c...ng-oswald/about

 

It's synopsis:

 

"More than two million declassified government files offer new evidence about Lee Harvey Oswald’s activities in the weeks, months and years before the assassination of President John F. Kennedy with the last remaining documents scheduled for release later this year. HISTORY’s new six-part nonfiction series “JFK Declassified: Tracking Oswald” follows former CIA agent, Bob Baer and former LAPD police lieutenant, Adam Bercovici, on their independent global investigation into Oswald, and the murder of JFK, asking the questions: did he have accomplices, and if so, who helped him assassinate the President?"

 

What do we know about Baer who is "convinced" that Oswald shot JFK?

 

I watched the first 35 minutes of the first episode, which investigates LHO in Mexico City, since "no one had ever followed up on his visit to the Soviet Embassy."  Certainly lost IQ points muddling through the lies and assumptions...



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 12:24 PM

Has anyone else been able to stomach watching this?

 

http://www.history.c...ng-oswald/about

 

It's synopsis:

 

"More than two million declassified government files offer new evidence about Lee Harvey Oswald’s activities in the weeks, months and years before the assassination of President John F. Kennedy with the last remaining documents scheduled for release later this year. HISTORY’s new six-part nonfiction series “JFK Declassified: Tracking Oswald” follows former CIA agent, Bob Baer and former LAPD police lieutenant, Adam Bercovici, on their independent global investigation into Oswald, and the murder of JFK, asking the questions: did he have accomplices, and if so, who helped him assassinate the President?"

 

What do we know about Baer who is "convinced" that Oswald shot JFK?

 

I watched the first 35 minutes of the first episode, which investigates LHO in Mexico City, since "no one had ever followed up on his visit to the Soviet Embassy."  Certainly lost IQ points muddling through the lies and assumptions...

"What do we know about Baer who is "convinced" that Oswald shot JFK?"

 

It remains a mystery to me how anyone can still be a 'believer' that Oswald shot JFK.  



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 12:49 PM

I haven't even attempted to watch it yet.


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#4 Mark Jamieson

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 08:47 AM

I haven't even attempted to watch it yet.

 

It is very professionally done, but the substance (of lack thereof) will hurt your head... disinformation for the masses.


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Posted 02 May 2017 - 06:51 PM

Thanks for the heads up Mark. I don't think I could handle anymore BS disinfo. I reached my max RDA of BS years ago. Back when Legacy of Ashes by Tim Weiner came out some years ago at first blush it appearedto be a scathing history of the incompetence of the CIA. It made the CIA look like a totally Keystone Kops  organization who couldn't find their own ass with both hands.  It used the logic "How do we know the CIA had nothing to do with JFK's assassination? He died.  It was purposeful disinformation.


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Posted 09 May 2017 - 09:12 AM

Episode 2:

 

http://www.history.c...son-1/episode-2

 

"CIA veteran Bob Baer turns his attention to Moscow, exploring deeper connections between Oswald and the Russian government. The team tracks down a former KGB officer, whose stunning testimony jolts the investigation."

 

Our career CIA officer Bob has opened a new investigation into JFK's murder, following "new evidence" recently declassified, because he wasn't satisfied that the "whole truth" had come out.  Fortunately for us, he happens to have a full History Channel crew following he and his crack team around the world to document this groundbreaking endeavor. (of course you can tell my remarks are dripping with sarcasm...)

 

CIA veteran Bob Baer travels Moscow with wall penetrating sonar in his suitcase to check for evidence of KGB surveillance in Oswald's room at the Metropol... 

 

He then begins searching to see if there are any KGB agents around who were serving during Oswald's time in the USSR.  Just so happens that the former CIA officer locates an agent (Oleg) and interviews him.  Everything the KGB agent tells him has been available since 1964, up and until he claims to have meet face-to-face with Oswald in Mexico City in September 1963...  

 

This spurious interview begins with an interpreter, then inexplicably Oleg begin answering in English with subtitles... 

 

This ridiculous "investigation" seems to be straining to put the blame for JFK's death on the Soviets... at the exact moment that the disinformation in the US is blaming Russia for interfering with the 2016 election.  At the end, our CIA officer reluctantly clears the KGB of "direct involvement" in the murder, and casts suspicion on Cuba and Sylvia Duran...  


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Posted 10 May 2017 - 03:19 AM

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Baer did See No Evil, claiming he was on the trail of the mastermind of the 1983 Beirut Embassy bombing which killed sixty when Tony Lake sent two FBI agents to arrest him for conspiring to assassinate Saddam Hussein.

 

Baer's great lament was Turner's Halloween '77 massacre of 820 case officers, that humint was never rebuilt.

 

Baer presents as another company rodeo clown.

 

Russians.  Krazy Kommie Kid Kills Kennedy.  Gee, did somebody help Oswald kill the president?

 

Not since Sturgis have we seen a more painted Langley whore.

 


 

This resonates with the same brilliant scholarship and daring Indiana Jones research as Capone's vault and Aliens Built Great Pyramids.

 

It fits with Angleton's Red Plot and the 1967 memo dismissing critics as conspiracy nuts--

 

--except you can speculate on who joined the so-eeevil Ozvaldski in what that other CIA light wrote:

 

Oswald was a believing Marxist, and his motive was to strike the deadliest blow he could imagine at capitalism in the United States.

 

A Word About Lee Harvey Oswald By Priscilla McMillan

 

Richard Case Nagell saw Oswald at Nags Head in '57--was that a KGB facility?

 

Antonio Veciana saw Oswald with David Atlee Phillips in '63--when Phillips headed KGB directorate 13?

 

Victor Marchetti, former deputy to DCI Helms, said Oswald had signed his own death warrant when he tried to call John Hunt in Raleigh, North Carolina from the Dallas jail the night of Saturday November 23, 1963--was that to check in with his KGB handler?

 

The Mexico City charade was so bad the voice tape and photos had to be suppressed and covered with a fabric of lies.

 

The 40 million dead in the first hour was enough to coerce Earl Warren, but he was a corrupted bag of excrement at the height of the Cuba and Berlin tension--the Doppler Effect of history gives us perspective.

 

No, Patricia (and Bobby Baer aka Agent Too-Smart by Half), Oswald wasn't KGB, he was ONI/CIA/FBI* and ultimately SOL.

 

*(See also Philip Melanson, Spy Saga)

 

Angleton sent him to Russia via a spy portal (Albert Schweitzer College) so secret, intelligence agencies couldn't find it for weeks.

 

Marina mistook Lee for Robert Webster another of the two dozen CIA false defectors gathering intelligence.

 

Lee was pulled by J. Walton Moore of CIA Domestic Contacts, handed to CIA asset DeMohrenschildt then to the Paines.

 

The Paines are hooked up with AID, CIA, Bell Helicopter--and Allen Dulles personally--

 

Michael's mother was best friends with Mary Bancroft who was Allen Dulles' OSS colleague and mistress.

 

Ruth found things Dallas Police missed in hours of searching.

 

The black shirt from the Backyard Photo was never found--as the search was not extended to Roscoe White's closet.

 

Devoting a second to the Baer Russophobia misses the point--

 

--it was his company what served as the sword and shield of the cabal that pushed the War over the dead body of the President.

 

A traitor thou art, albeit after the fact, late as befits the agency that simply cannot shoot straight.

 

Nobody is buying what you're selling, Bob.

 

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#8 Phil Dragoo

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 04:19 PM

We have established, thanks to Sherry Fiester and David Mantik et al, that JFK was removed in a crossfire arising from a conspiracy to commit a coup.

 

Here we dissect/deconstruct the Baer Naked misdirection from what I consider constructive to cul de sacs, e.g., LBJ, KGB, Castro, Hoover, oil men.

 

A ,military-intelligence complex supports a consortium of licit and illicit enterprises which dictate to the temporary resident of the Oval Office.

 

Licit:  oil, arms, multinational corporate borgs.

 

Illicit:  arms shipments to national interest cutouts (last war, taliban; this war, moderate terrorists);

 

Illicit:  drug traffic--viz. DOJ/DEA collusion with Zetas/Sinaloa plus Afghanistan We Are the World's Poppy Garden.

 

In 1963 the CIA-military disgust with the 35th president reached critical mass.

 

Angleton had a ready-made patsy enriched by Phillips and steered by J. Walton Moore/DeMorenschildt/Paine (the latter Dulles' inner circle)

 

Curtis LeMay and Lyman Lemnitzer represented the assurance that the military would cooperate--witness LeMay at Bethesda.

 

McGeorge Bundy's NSAM 273 (see Greg Burnham's presentation and research on this forum) cautioned everyone to get on board--

 

--just as Ike's psywar chief C. D. Jackson wrote in October 1952 regarding the role of government.

 

As a branch of the multifaceted maintenance of the ruling myth--Kennedy Killed by Krazy Kommie Ko-opted by KGB--

 

--so, too, the Noam Chomsky school of La-la-la-la I-can't-hear-you of doublethink teaches JFK/LBJ same same in re Vietnam.

 

I recommend in the strongest terms the second edition of John M. Newman, JFK and Vietnam as a grand antidote for a half-century of lies.

 

Just as with the Bay of Pigs provocation, and the Cuban Missile Crisis ambush, the nonsense of JFK's Vietnam War is pernicious.

 

per·ni·cious
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adjective: pernicious

    having a harmful effect, especially in a gradual or subtle way.
    "the pernicious influences of the mass media"

    synonyms: harmful, damaging, destructive, injurious, hurtful, detrimental, deleterious, dangerous, adverse, inimical, unhealthy, unfavorable, bad, evil, baleful, wicked, malign, malevolent, malignant, noxious, poisonous, corrupting;

 

We know JFK was in Vietnam in 1951 with Bobby, talking to Ambassador Gullion about the plight of the French.

 

Dien Bien Phu in 1954--the debacle of 15,000 French encircled and captured as U.S. planes stayed on the ground due to bad weather.

 

JFK recognized one month prior:

 

I am frankly of the belief that no amount of American military assistance in Indochina can conquer an enemy which is everywhere and at the same time nowhere, "an enemy of the people" which has the sympathy and covert support of the people.

 

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Remarks of Senator John F. Kennedy on Indochina before the Senate, Washington, D.C., April 6, 1954

 

In Newman's meticulous research we see the president being fed false intelligence--all the whistling past the graveyard from ten years prior--

 

Here's an example from his 1954 Senate speech:

 

In February of 1951, for example, the late Brig. Gen. Francis G. Brink, then head of the United States Military Advisory Group, in Indochina, told us of the favorable turn of events in that area as a result of new tactics designed by Gen. Jean de Lattre de Tassigny. In the fall of that same year, General De Lattre himself voiced optimism in his speech before the National Press Club here in Washington; and predicted victory, under certain conditions, in 18 months to 2 years, during his visit to France.

 

As we enter 1963 JFK is formulating withdrawal, using the military's false optimism to facilitate such drawing down.

 

How did we get from 1954 to 1975?  In part over a president's dead body--over three presidents:

 

JFK was terminated and LBJ sent in--

 

--his incrementalism allowed the Communists to adapt and prosper until he bought Cronkite's melodramatic reaction to Tet

 

--he would be heartattacked after Hoover, '72-'73 bang-bang.

 

Nixon was removed by Helms using McCord and Woodward

 

Watergate Revelations: The Coup Against Nixon, Part 1 of 3

 

In comes Ford to name Rocky veep to whitewash the Company, and GHWB to sanitize the HSCA witness list--

 

--and history would be revised by the likes of Chomskiracy.

 

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Precedent?  Analogue?

 

So, we never conducted the Manhattan Project, Noam?

 

 


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