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#1 Greg Burnham

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 11:39 AM

From Carl Anthony online who discusses what JFK had planned for his second term as reported to him [Anthony] by Jacqueline Kennedy (and Robert McNamara in taped interviews):



Of all her later recollections about what President Kennedy intended to do, the most upsetting to her was what she curiously characterized as a “secret meeting,” with U.S. Ambassador to Vietnam Henry Cabot Lodge.


President Kennedy with the man he soon after appointed as U.S. Ambassador to Vietnam Henry Cabot Lodge, 1961. (AP)

Her account suggests that he went into uncharacteristic detail with her about the reasons for this, briefing her fully on the current and unfolding situation. He would have had two strong reasons for doing this.


First, he was meeting with the Ambassador not at the White House but at their private weekend home “Wexford,” thus intruding on what was supposed to be set aside as time alone with her and their children.


Second, since the time they had first begun dating, while he was a freshman U.S. Senator and she was a newspaper columnist and photographer, he had known of her particular depth of knowledge and nuanced understanding of the delicate situation in Vietnam which, along with Laos and Cambodia, formed the former French colony of “Indochina.” She had begun studying the situation since 1949 while enrolled at the Sorbonne and she also translated French military policy reports for him on the matter in 1953.


It is unclear why the account provided by Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis in 1990 contradicts the later publicly reported claim that the meeting was to take place at Camp David.


The widowed Jacqueline Kennedy greets her friend Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, 1967.


As the former First Lady specifically amplified my original manuscript account:


“He [JFK] was searching for a way to relieve the ambassador of his duties and to gradually diminish the U.S. presence in Vietnam. JFK had scheduled a White House meeting on this subject for Monday morning, November 25.”


This particular intention of JFK’s, “haunted for years” Jacqueline Kennedy (as her friend, the JFK-LBJ Defense Secretary Robert McNamara put it in our taped interview) because instead of beginning perhaps “to gradually diminish the U.S. presence in Vietnam” on Monday, November 25, 1963, the President was instead being buried at Arlington National Cemetery that day.



Again for emphasis, according to Jackie Kennedy:


“He [JFK] was searching for a way to relieve the ambassador [Lodge] of his duties and to gradually diminish the U.S. presence in Vietnam. JFK had scheduled a White House meeting on this subject for Monday morning, November 25.”

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#2 Larry Trotter

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:32 PM

:huh: 1960s era Defense Secretary Robert McNamara certainly looks different in that photo.


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#3 Phil Dragoo

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 03:33 AM

Noel Twyman had a frank discussion during dinner with McNamara, but later was rebuffed.  The supposition was that upon reporting My Dinner With Noel, Control advised no further contact.


Eric Wilson, The Spectacle of the False Flag, presents McNamara in the Gang of Five* which acted independently of Johnson in 1964, pushing the president to ratchet up the War despite the election posturing of the moderate poseur.


McNamara strikes me as a snake.  Which is to say, when the big, boorish Texan urinated in the Rose Garden, McNamara was gliding unseen between the stems and the stream.


*The redrawn Executive Committee (ExComm) of McNamara, Rusk, McGeorge Bundy, Taylor, McCone.

#4 Jim Hackett II

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 08:03 PM

McNamara dirty no question, just smarmy. Exhibiting situational ethics.


Consider the now known DOD people, material and logistics involved before and after the murder and I am to accept that the SECDEF knew nothing before hand?


Ah and the dirtbag Lodge fit right in with Siagon MMission agendae.


I gotta accept that the President no longer trusted either of these appointees.


And as for your little dog Maxwell Taylor............................



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